Wednesday, September 19, 2012

What Rivalry Means The Most To Oregon?






Many factors contribute to a rivalry, like geography, culture, and the product of competition in the series.  

So when it comes to Oregon, who really matters most to you?  If I had to ask you, who you wanted to beat the most this year, who would it be?  Oregon state?  Washington?  USC?  Lets take a look at each of them, and maybe your answer will change at the end?


First lets start with probably our most natural rivalry, Oregon state.  They fit the first two factors (geographically and culturally) but they fail to meet the third factor (series competitiveness) for many reasons, that I see keep the program always at a distance from Oregon.

The beavers will never be our equal.  There was a time when both programs were down, but Oregon state was really down, and even then the series wasn't competitive enough to be a real intense rivalry.  

The Ducks lead the series 59-46-10.  But they are 28-11 since 1972, and have currently won 4 straight in the series.  

The steady climb of Oregon's program to the top has generated a lot of support from fans (thank you Phil Knight), incredible facilities (again, thank you PK), and national relevance.  All of those factors will keep Oregon an elite program, and ahead of Oregon state.  The beavers don't have the money or fan support to ever compete on the level with Oregon.  They're already too far behind.  

And most Duck fans you talk to always say they root for Oregon state whenever they're not playing Oregon (I want them to lose every game).  Even at Autzen stadium, when they announce the beaver score, if the beavers are winning the fans will cheer (I don't).

So is that a real rivalry then?  Don't you need hate for the other side, like with Washington?
Then there is our rivalry with the Huskies.  Duck fans HATE Washington.  You could read more about it here, but the hate comes from both sides, unlike with Oregon state, where a lot of it comes mostly from them (jealousy and envy).  

Duck fans for years resented how obnoxious and arrogant UW fans were.  Believe it or not, they were always contending with SC and UCLA, so they were a bigger target for Oregon to climb over.

The huskies used to be the big bullies on the block, and Oregon was little brother.  But Oregon got tired of being picked on, they grew up and got bigger, and fought back!  They have firmly replaced UW as the top program in the region, and it's been that way for quite some time now.  Husky fans (who once were too proud to admit they had a rivalry with Oregon) now resent Oregon for sending them back to the bus.

But it hasn't been that competitive either.  Since Kenny Wheaton picked off Damon Huard's pass at the 3 yard line, and housed it 97 yards later in '94, Oregon is 15-4 against Washington, including an 8 game winning streak.  

Oregon has turned their attention elsewhere, to an even bigger bully with a much bigger target on its back...USC.


Duck fans have always taken pleasure in being a thorn in the trojans side.  It's probably because of their arrogance, their southern Californian life style (a lot of animosity towards SoCal in Oregon), and all the hype they get from playing in the nations second largest television market.  

But Oregon has largely been off USC's radar, until recently.  After dominating the conference for most of the 2000's, Oregon elevated their program to even greater heights soon after the hiring of Chip Kelly in 2007, putting them in direct competition with the trojans.

The series has been the most competitive out of the three (OSU, UW being the other two) recently, with Oregon going 3-2 vs. the trojans since 2007. When these two teams meet, there's usually a lot at stake.  Both are ranked, probably in the top 10, and conference as well national positioning is at stake.

You can read more about the growing rivalry here. 

USC fans, as you could imagine, resent Oregon's success, and have developed some hatred for them.  It's a big deal to the players too.  Trojan quarterback Matt Barkley said this about Oregon: 

"Oregon is our biggest competitor in the conference.  Beating Oregon last year was special.  It let us know that if we can compete with Oregon, and beat Oregon, that we can compete with anyone in the country."

Plus it has to mean a lot to so many of the Duck players come from Southern California.  

With everything taken into consideration, in terms of most significance, USC has to rank #1 because there's so much at stake.  A win puts Oregon in the drivers seat for a conference championship at the very least.  The competitiveness in the series has made it more intense as well, and given it a big time feel.

But there's still something about keeping little bro (Oregon state) in check, and never seeing them succeed.  And it's always important to remember why Duck fans hate husky fans so much in the first place.  

I think most Duck fans will always have a special place in their heart for hating on UW and OSU, while the rivalry with USC could fizzle.  And that's why I think Washington and Oregon state will always matter most to Oregon fans. 

9 comments:

  1. **NOTES**

    USC leads the all-time series against Oregon 37-18-2

    Washington leads the all-time series against Oregon 58-41-5

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  2. Great Read Chris...I honestly don't give OSU a 2nd thought anymore. USC, like you said, because of their arrogance..but the Huskies...just something about them chaps my ass! I think my hatred for the Huskies has escalated due to now living in Fuskie Land. They are the most pompous asses I've ever dealt with...Possibly why so few refuse to join the Smack Groups...they know the Duck's are now superior over them and it's eating them alive!!!

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    1. That's just a small sample of mutt fans, believe me, there are plenty out there that run smack against Oregon still. Just visit some of their forums!

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  3. Honestly none of those Chris coz we have already beaten these hood rats. The real pleasure would be to beat Alafuckingbama in the National Championship game so I can shove SEC and Bama pride up their ignorant, inbred redneck asses right here in alabama. Ohhhh i want that to happen so bad...

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  4. I dig 'Bama since they were behind us when we played against the Tigers... I even bought a Roll Ducks Roll Tee shirt from one of their student groups... first time ever they used their school's cheer for a different school.... Anyway, not here to battle with my own fans, and I'm sure it is probably different/or irritating living in Alabama and being around them all of the time....

    We have to beat the Huskies, hope to beat them all, but for my sanity, (I live outside of Seattle), we HAVE to beat the Huskies, I have talked way too much shit (surprise, surprise), for us to take an L for that game!!! Plus I get to be there for it!!! :) I am just glad Stanford already kicked USC's ass and hopefully deflated them a bit! :)

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  5. USC-CAN'T STAND THEM---WAY TOO COCKY

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  6. you got to have bragging rights in your own state, otherwise its a whole year of listening to the crap, like OSU has been hearing for the last few years, instate rival anytime over teams from other states

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  7. usc (pooch & rat: Irrelevant). Plus, I work with usc fans.

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